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	<description>A Murder of Words, eventually</description>
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		<title>Comment on What in the world is Obama doing? by Becky</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/what-in-the-world-is-obama-doing/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do people really give a shit if these assholes were tortured?? Most don&#039;t. They were criminals. They are still alive which is better than their victims fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do people really give a shit if these assholes were tortured?? Most don&#8217;t. They were criminals. They are still alive which is better than their victims fate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let &#8216;em Go? by checkypantz</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/let-em-go/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>checkypantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B, I went back and read the report again, and I guess I can see some of the vagueness you&#039;re talking about. The key point, though, is right at the start of the report (I&#039;ll give you chapter &amp; verse offline if you want) where it pretty clearly links the concept of extremism with violent acts and terrorism.

My larger point in the postscript, though, is the reflex that some conservatives had to the report. The automatic assumption that the report was a signal to the non-violent conservative movement that they would soon be watched (or worse) as Enemies of the State was not the reaction the report should have engendered. Not everyone has the time or desire to sift through government reports and examining their minutiae - those folks tend to consume the media outlet(s) of their choice, and it&#039;s simple intellectual dishonesty for folks (and I&#039;m going to name names here) like Malkin to cherry-pick quotes for the masses to hear, knowing full well that most people won&#039;t take the time to verify what they&#039;re being told.

Also, what&#039;s been almost completely ignored is the fact that a mirror report about leftwing extremism was also released by the DHS back in January, and while the report does paint some similarly broad strokes against animal rights activists and environmental extremists, there wasn&#039;t the same sense of outrage. It&#039;s my contention that, as with the report that came out this week, it is clear (in context) what groups or individuals were the objects of scrutiny - and it&#039;s not your everyday, run-of-the-mill treesitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B, I went back and read the report again, and I guess I can see some of the vagueness you&#8217;re talking about. The key point, though, is right at the start of the report (I&#8217;ll give you chapter &amp; verse offline if you want) where it pretty clearly links the concept of extremism with violent acts and terrorism.</p>
<p>My larger point in the postscript, though, is the reflex that some conservatives had to the report. The automatic assumption that the report was a signal to the non-violent conservative movement that they would soon be watched (or worse) as Enemies of the State was not the reaction the report should have engendered. Not everyone has the time or desire to sift through government reports and examining their minutiae &#8211; those folks tend to consume the media outlet(s) of their choice, and it&#8217;s simple intellectual dishonesty for folks (and I&#8217;m going to name names here) like Malkin to cherry-pick quotes for the masses to hear, knowing full well that most people won&#8217;t take the time to verify what they&#8217;re being told.</p>
<p>Also, what&#8217;s been almost completely ignored is the fact that a mirror report about leftwing extremism was also released by the DHS back in January, and while the report does paint some similarly broad strokes against animal rights activists and environmental extremists, there wasn&#8217;t the same sense of outrage. It&#8217;s my contention that, as with the report that came out this week, it is clear (in context) what groups or individuals were the objects of scrutiny &#8211; and it&#8217;s not your everyday, run-of-the-mill treesitter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let &#8216;em Go? by Brian</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/let-em-go/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, Jason, the document you mentioned at the end of your post is pretty poorly written.  If you actually read the document itself (not the vague quotes in media articles) it defines right wing &quot;extremists&quot; pretty clearly, and yes, broadly.  It might not have been the INTENTION of the document to suggest that (for example) people who believe in states-rights are &quot;extremists&quot; but the document states pretty much exactly that.  

Unfortunately, most of the document is covered in For Official Use Only and Law Enforcement Sensitive markings, so it can&#039;t really be quoted directly to prove my point. 

One particularly frightening thing in the document is the claim that even though several of these groups are not now and have never before been violent that they should be investigated anyway because they are likely to be unhappy with the policies of the current administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, Jason, the document you mentioned at the end of your post is pretty poorly written.  If you actually read the document itself (not the vague quotes in media articles) it defines right wing &#8220;extremists&#8221; pretty clearly, and yes, broadly.  It might not have been the INTENTION of the document to suggest that (for example) people who believe in states-rights are &#8220;extremists&#8221; but the document states pretty much exactly that.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, most of the document is covered in For Official Use Only and Law Enforcement Sensitive markings, so it can&#8217;t really be quoted directly to prove my point. </p>
<p>One particularly frightening thing in the document is the claim that even though several of these groups are not now and have never before been violent that they should be investigated anyway because they are likely to be unhappy with the policies of the current administration.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let &#8216;em Go? by checkypantz</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/let-em-go/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>checkypantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA! Well, there you go - even the earth believes in the two party system. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HA! Well, there you go &#8211; even the earth believes in the two party system. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Let &#8216;em Go? by Becky</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/let-em-go/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And believe me, we would not miss Jerry Johnson, Mack Brown, or any of the Texas Longhorns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And believe me, we would not miss Jerry Johnson, Mack Brown, or any of the Texas Longhorns.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let &#8216;em Go? by Becky</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/let-em-go/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another note, if the ice cap keeps melting and the east and west coast become part of the oceans, thus losing their senate and representative seats and electoral votes, the Republican Party will once again dominate and you may not have another democratic President in your lifetime. But, in your favor, I have changed light bulbs and I do recycle. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note, if the ice cap keeps melting and the east and west coast become part of the oceans, thus losing their senate and representative seats and electoral votes, the Republican Party will once again dominate and you may not have another democratic President in your lifetime. But, in your favor, I have changed light bulbs and I do recycle. LOL</p>
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		<title>Comment on I dread this time of year by Becky</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/i-dread-this-time-of-year/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to feed him a 9mm barrel for lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to feed him a 9mm barrel for lunch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I dread this time of year by checkypantz</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/i-dread-this-time-of-year/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>checkypantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted this in reaction to the news out of NY state, but well before the shooting in PGH today.

And no, I hadn&#039;t heard that about our dear Mr. Nichols. What a colossal ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this in reaction to the news out of NY state, but well before the shooting in PGH today.</p>
<p>And no, I hadn&#8217;t heard that about our dear Mr. Nichols. What a colossal ass.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I dread this time of year by Becky</title>
		<link>http://booknine.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/i-dread-this-time-of-year/#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And had you heard that Terry Nichols (conspirator in the bombing 4-19-95) is now suing the government for not feeding him whole grains and fruits so that is delicate digestive system won&#039;t be harmed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And had you heard that Terry Nichols (conspirator in the bombing 4-19-95) is now suing the government for not feeding him whole grains and fruits so that is delicate digestive system won&#8217;t be harmed?</p>
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		<title>Comment on I dread this time of year by Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you write this before or after the mass slaying yesterday? April does seem to be a time for the crazies to come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you write this before or after the mass slaying yesterday? April does seem to be a time for the crazies to come out.</p>
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